Back to Board Index
Back to Board Index
Forum help
| PMDG, Level D etc - Solution to being kicked | |
Ian Whiteside   7th Nov 2011 19:27:09 | Possible solution to complex aircraft being kicked in the server....
Suspect extra information being sent to server by complex aircraft causing data reception processing issues. ------- So;ution ? Close all FSX ports except 1. ------- At login screen in FSX Multiplayer (Where you enter your online ID) ----- Click on -'Network Settings' down the bottom. Where the Ports 6112 to 6122 are shown make them 6112 to 6112 --- Then join server as normal----- This is eliminating extra data from the aircraft being sent to the server and preventing extra data being received from planes on the server..... ---- Can people test this out when able and give results here ---- Thanks and happy flying to all..... |
Dave Wave   7th Nov 2011 19:41:11 | No point Ian. 99.99% of the time fsx only uses 6112. Only if this port is being used by another process will fsx jump up to 6113. Then 6114 if this is not free etc.
|
| Ian Whiteside 7th Nov 2011 19:52:54 | Exactly Dave..... It seems that the complex aircraft ARE using other ports in the FSX range to send out and receive data... and when two different publishers are sending and receiving THEIR OWN protocol then the other aircraft is getting unreadable data.... crash !
Have tried this with Joe Lewis in the server tonight and he seems to have had success.... with his Level D 767 versus PMDG 737 when before he could not fly in the server when a 737ngx was in the server |
| Dave Wave 7th Nov 2011 19:59:34 | My understanding is that badly written 3rd party planes continualy change some fsx variables. If fsx is programmed to transmit these changes to other players then these changes are then transmitted to other players.
Let me know how you get on. |
Andy Mooring   7th Nov 2011 20:23:48 | Would I be correct in saying those port settings are in place when you are hosting an FSX session thru gamespy and not an independant server? |
| Ian Whiteside 7th Nov 2011 20:59:43 | I think those ports are utilised when connecting to another server - Gamespy or Direct connect...
I think there may be an issue if you don't switch back to more than one port when HOSTING an ATC session...... Again something to investigate and REPORT BACK here..... thanks |
| Joe Lewis 7th Nov 2011 21:20:36 | I have not been able to fly with my Level-D in the server while other 737NGX aircraft are flying, but with Geoff following close behind (~50nm) in a 737ngx from LKPR-EBBR I didn't get disconnected from the server, will report back if I do get kicked. Hopefully this fixes this annoying problem which I (and many others) have had for over a year!
Thanks Joe |
| Keith Thurman 8th Nov 2011 18:08:13 | tried it with my ifly 737ngx and got kicked within a minute! |
| Joe Lewis 8th Nov 2011 18:45:22 | I don't know Keith, that's what usually happens to me in the Level-D, this fix, fixed it...maybe it's a problem on iFly's end, is it compatible with multiplayer etc? |
| Joe Lewis 8th Nov 2011 19:27:23 | Just got kicked like usual, still not fixed! :( |
| Ian Whiteside 8th Nov 2011 19:42:04 | OK Guys ... thanks for the feedback
If you wanna try this ;- Set the Port Range to 6120 and 6120 Theory - Possibily nothing using this port as high up in the 6112-6122 range |
| Ian Whiteside 8th Nov 2011 20:08:25 | Ok , I tried that and it doesn't work... I guess FSX starts off on 6112.. maybe someone else can find a solution for these guys... |
| Joe Lewis 8th Nov 2011 20:17:17 | Got in 3rd try, less people were at the airport by then, I think this is something for Dave or one of the managers. I would get in touch with Level-D about the issue, but it's not only a fault with the Level-D as it includes the iFly and the PMDG MD-11 at times.
Thanks Joe |
| Ian Whiteside 9th Nov 2011 03:08:06 | Had quite a busy server Tue night and there was an iFly 737 in flying ....pilot said it was first time he'd managed to get in for a long time. Joe was also in, in his LevelD 737 flying with me and five or six others using different aircraft and I was in the PMDG 737, there did not seem to be any problems....
Seems that there is an improvement, from an overall perspective... |
| Chris Stanley 24th Nov 2011 12:08:33 | Ok lets be honest the connection our server is on is a home connection through talk talk ( i checked the ip) this simply cannot support the ammount of data/connections required for a server to have many users in.
We install Dell r700's all day as terminal services in preperation for the cloud and they go on gigabit connections with 3.5-6 mb upload speeds and support upto 64 users give or take a few, a home connection typically has around 50kb upload speed. yes the udp packet flooding is a problem but hippy happy germany don't get this problem as tehy have a beast of a server hosted on a proper connection and since the sp1 have been able to get 20+ usesr in with 737's and MD11's i know i was there in my pmdg md 11 no problems at all. without getting techinichal on TCP/IP protocol lets be realistic a home connection cannot support the ammount of users even if the server can. yes there are problems with dc's in fsx but i'm afraid on fs open it is not always fsx's fault- the connections are timing out waiting for replies from the server - i know this as i had network monitoring software open last night and i was fine for a couple hours then it timed out due to waiting for a reply from the server. sorry to be the bearer of bad news but according to our engineers and wolfgang over at hippy happy the issue could lie at the server end connection. Chris |
| Chris Stanley 24th Nov 2011 12:11:58 | o its worth noting i have had BT to my connection twice and tested it several times i can hit the serevr in 42-43 ms.
last night the server was replying to my machine in the 195-220ms range. :( |
Darren Carey  24th Nov 2011 13:38:26 | Hi all i use pmdg etc if you are using a bent copy even if its a dvd rip you will get kicked as new program is out to stop the addon from working |
| Chris Stanley 24th Nov 2011 14:13:28 | Are you refering to sp1 darren?
If so the only way it will stop it working is if you cracked the oridginal then attempt to install sp1 as it performs an activation check when you install sp1. the 600-700 expansion also performs an activation check so installing this will also break your cracked copy. Also anyone who rips off PMDG really wants to take a look at themselves. PMDG are the best supporter of our hobby and supports our attempts to get as real as it gets- if any company deserves your support its PMDG IMO |
| Chris Stanley 24th Nov 2011 14:17:22 | o and i was not aware of the 737ngx being out on dvd?, i thought it was d/l only |
| Gordon Thorpe 24th Nov 2011 19:39:56 | does that mean that the 4 yrs i have been running a server & the last 2 for fs open with as many as 35 in the server at the same time without lag, that i have been doeing it all wrong, for some reason i seem to have a very good connection
could be that the telephone exchange is just at the back of my house goffa |
| Chris Stanley 24th Nov 2011 23:25:04 | No Gordon thats not what i'm saying- you obviously have agreat connection just maybe not enough bandwidth to support all the concurrent connections that the server requires.
I'm just suggesting that there are reasons for the time outs a lot of people get. I in no way want my post to be taken in a negative way but i have looked and looked at all possibilities to improve my connection to your server and vice versa for a long time- i just thought i would share some of the findings in an attempt to shed light on what maybe the issue rather than 'its your machine' or 'its your plane''its your connection' ect ect usual answers that come accross i appoligise if i came accross wrong- it was not my intention. I appreciate that without seeing the network usage at server end i cannot be sure. I did put this to some of our best network engineers within centrica 1 of which flies online which is why a posed this question to him and others within our team and that was the general opinion. Again i appoligise if i have overstepped the mark - my intentions are purely to improve the experiance for all in fsopen and utilise the resouces at my disposal to do that. Chris |
| Gordon Thorpe 25th Nov 2011 19:13:41 | sorry, now that you have explained what you are trying to do
i now understand it. (yes i did take it wrong) fs open is what it is today because of all the info put in from all members. & what you said will be looked at thanks goffa |
| Ian Whiteside 25th Nov 2011 23:06:49 | Would it be helpful or of any use, if any serious connection problems or server kicks are reported here. A cause may possibly be established by the symptoms.
'Feedback' for resolution |
You need to Log on to post a reply. |
Forum help