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Ignat Ignatov  24th Feb 2010 02:31:27 | Hey all,
me and my friend Evgeni are trying to find nice 3rd party aircraft and to fly it as a pilot and co-pilot. A 2 week research on the net hinted that the best airliner on the market is the CaptainSim 757/767. Does anyone own one of these or other captainsim products? I can't really find any info on the multiplayer features of these airplanes. Today I wrote to captainsim 3 times, but the bloody russians do not seem to understand proper English. The plain question is: can we fly it as "shared" (FSX term) aircraft as a pilot / copilot? Sharing an aircraft basically means it has to have a co-pilot's seat and the instruments and are being synchronised over the net. The other thng we would prefer is to have as many of the knobs, switches and stuff to be working. I seem to have a fetish to cold-starting a plane :) If no one can advise about captainsim, feel free to do so for another 3rd party payware airplanes. Up till now I have tried: - captainsim 757 - seems best on market, every switch/knob works, fully working FMC, awesome! Downside - we never could get in as pilot/co-pilot, not known because of the cracked version or multiplayer inability of it. - PMDG 747 - good, although nothing inspiring, FS2004 conversion - PMDG Bae Jetstream 4100 - simply gorgeous, awesome, designed for FSX only, fully working cockpit, many many extras, only downside - turbo twin prop - LevelD 767 - nice, nothing inspiring, FS2004 conversion - Wilco 737 - don't even remember what was wrong there - Ariane 737 - looks awesome, after 1 hour in it seems mediocre If anyone owns some of these or other 3rd party jet airliner, I would love to try to be your co-pilot for half an hour to review it. After all it comes down to 60-80 euro for 2 copies of an payware aircraft and any information would be helpful. Thanks in advance Cheers, Ignat P.S. Sorry for the wall of text :P |
Dave Wave   24th Feb 2010 12:19:54 | Hi Ignat, I bought the Captain Sim 757 and the Level D 767 at the same time.
I found the Captain Sim hit frame rates badly, the Level D was much better and I think I'm not the first to say this. No idea if you can share in either. |
Fatih Aydogduoglu   24th Feb 2010 13:03:01 | I have got both of them as well and I 100% agree with Dave. |
| Tam Spiers 24th Feb 2010 13:49:41 | yes captain 757 will hit ur frame rate bad to share ur friend must have captain 757 on his pc as well have a look at pilot in command 737 u get good frame rate and has fmc very good add on |
| Ignat Ignatov 24th Feb 2010 19:33:00 | Guys, thanks for the concerns, I also noticed certain FPS drop in the 757, but the multiplayer ability is what we are really interested in. If we can't fly it together, the framerate is useless :)
Dave and Fatih - can I ask you to make a short IFR flight on autopilot with an ILS landing on the 757 as a pilot and copilot to see if everything goes OK? If it lacks the "shared" feature, try same thing on the LevelD 767. Such feedback would be really appreciated. And I think you too will enjoy it. ;) cheers lads Ignat |
| Dave Wave 24th Feb 2010 20:15:08 | Sorry Ignat, both are no longer on my PC |
| Fatih Aydogduoglu 24th Feb 2010 21:29:15 | I have LevelD installed We can try that. |
Kevin van Tienen 25th Feb 2010 23:02:15 | i have got the level-D 767 too, its really nice and i have high frame rates |
Liam Clifton  26th Feb 2010 09:38:31 | Hi. I have got the captain sim 757. It's takes a bit of getting use to and learning how to use everything correctly but this makes it very realistic. All of the buttons and switches work properly. But I have tried to share the aircraft on multiplayer and it would not let me enter the aircraft. So overall it it is a really good and realistic simulator, but will take a bit of learning to master the systems, but the downside is that it did not let me share the aircraft. Liam. |
| Chris Stanley 8th Mar 2010 16:37:03 | Hi guys i have a bulging hanger of addons CS 757,767,727 pmdg 747,md11,jetstream leveld 767 digital aviation fokker 70/100 to name a few all of which are installed and ready to go if i can connect to multiplayer on my new connection i will be happy to help. :)
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| Ignat Ignatov 15th Mar 2010 18:04:04 | Hey Chris,
thanks for the willingness to help. I got to say nice hangar you got there! :) Of all mentioned aircraft by you, only the Fokker has a shared cockpit. Regretfully it lacks virtual cockpit. But as my research grew bigger here's what I found: I have received official statement from PMDG: "The Shared cockpit function in FSX is not currently compatible with the PMDG product line. We attempted to implement this process during development of the PMDG product line but could never get it to perform successfully so it was abandoned. We will be looking at it again on the 737NGX" Flightsimlabs.com whose Concorde-X is on the assembly line at the moment also mention technical difficulties: http://forums.flightsimlabs.com/index.php?/topic/1903-two-crew-environment/page__view__findpost__p__2766 So the most companies just dumped the shared cockpit feature on grounds that it's too difficult to implement. I have checked almost 95% of the market - CS, CLS, LevelD, PMDG, DA, you name it. Up till now I have found exactly THREE sharable aircraft: - DA Fokker 70/100 @ http://www.digital-aviation.de/site/?page_id=7 - MadDog MD-80 series @ http://www.flythemaddog.com/features.php - L39 Albatros @ http://www.lotussim.com/features-intro.html Of those listed I can say the DA is awesome company, love their Piper Cheyenne, regretfully I don't feel like flying on two static pictures representing the panels. The L39 is an awesome bird, but since it's a military training subsonic jet, I imagine we would be frowned upon if we want to fly it online with people in 737s for example, although it has proper GPS navigation. And lastly (praise the aviation gods) the mad dog. This is the only airplane when it comes to flying commercial jet with a friend. Fully functional 2D and 3D cockpit, fully sharable over a custom TCP/IP channel (outside FSX), control panel, custom settings, load and fuel manager, etc. Fully working FMC (less features than the CS 757 FMC, but who cares) It does not have its own navdata, but it's built on the PMDG one and thus you use the PMDG one. Simulated failures across every system of the aircraft if you want some thrills. The downside is we still don't know how to fly it on fsopen, because it is not shared through the multiplayer session, but from free-flight. The good thing is that this is no-issue on IVAO/VATSIM. So of someone got any advice on that, we would be very glad. FSX is 4 years old now and quite surprisingly, I can count the aircraft which support shared cockpit on the fingers of ONE of my hands. After digging deeper into the community websites, 3rd party producers' forums, etc., it seems that Microsoft had produced rather buggy and unstable platform in which the shared cockpit is severely crippled and it exists almost only on paper, when it comes to custom gauges/instruments. The thing is that every self-respected aircraft producer does not use the default FSX gauges and instruments. You can see where this is going to. There's a light in the tunnel after all - AeroSoft is making a new flight sim, scheduled to release in Q2 2012. Last night I browsed the forum and I am completely stunned by the scale of the project. It can be found @ http://www.forum.aerosoft.com/index.php?showforum=278. I can recommend reading it, quite interesting. The way I see it, the whole flightsim community needs new sim right now, so everyone is invited to help them. FSX is aging and with ACES being booted and year ago does not help at all. Thanks for all the input guys and hope to see you all soon online. Cheers Ignat |
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